Saturday, November 19, 2011

Fancy Guppy Fry Log.

*** Entries are read from the Bottom  Up ***



LAST UPDATE: December 29, 2012 - 03:00pm. (One year later)

Guppies are now one year old. There has been many more drops from "daughter" females. Inbreeding faded colors and shapes. "Plain" fry is now adult (Fig. 9) and the more 'aggressive' specimen. Females have proved more difficult to keep as they are constantly harassed by the males as soon as they reach sexual maturity. Below are shown some of the adults.

Fig. 9.: This guppy started off without any color or pattern. It was a dull green. It developed a "Snake" or "Cobra" pattern. It's tail fin is shorter.











Fig 10.: Young female from the latest drop. (See Recommissioning Hospital Tank entry.)















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Tank: 10 gallon freshwater, planted (with lots of hair algae which proved to be more of a blessing than a curse.)
Population:
Yellow Female 1 - deceased
Leopard Male 1
Sunburst Male 1 - deceased
(2 adult Male Fancy Guppy mutts and 1 adult Yellow female.)
1 Threadfin Rainbowfish (most passive fish in town) and one Golden Pencilfish.
Parameters:
pH stable at about 7.8. (not ideal, but stable)
Temperature: Stable at 27-28 Celsius.
Nh4: Nil
Nitrite: Nil
Nitrate: 0
≦ 5 ppm. (closer to zero thanks to the plants )

Drop 1: Day 1: November 19, 2011 - Total discovered : 2 : Female: Yellow Female 1 + Male: unknown (LFS male)
Drop 2: Day 1: December 10, 2011 - Total discovered: 7 total recovered 5 : Female: Yellow Female 1 + Male (unknown)
Drop 3: Day 1: January 7, 2012 - Total discovered: 9. total recovered 9: Yellow female 1 + Male (probably Leopard Tuxedo)




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UPDATE: April 28, 2012 - 07:45pm: 
Many months later, I cant really tell which individual came from which drop.
My most prized specimen are now twin young males which developed fiery red and yellow tails, sons of the "Sunburst" male (deceased) and a yellow female. They have half black bodies and a shimmering golden collar. The pictures below do not begin to do them justice. I am now seeking suitable mates for them. Some young males, at least 2 others, are still developing their adult coloration. They have been fed Hikari specialty food for fancy guppy fry and results have been extremely satisfying.
One female seemingly the daughter of the "Leopard" male has had one drop of about 3 small fry. They were culled as to avoid weakening the gene pool with second and third generation inbreeding.


 Fig. 7: Young adult male "Sunburst/Yellow" cross (left).  Young adult female "Leopard/Yellow" cross (right foreground)


Fig. 8:  Young adult male "Sunburst/Yellow" cross (right).


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January 14, 2012 - 02:30pm: Drop 3: Day 8. Growing steadily. They seem to be growing at a faster rate than the previous drops. I can only count 6 at the time now. 3 could be missing. Some specimen already show a dark area on the caudal peduncle and some, at least 1, could have a half dark pattern already. They seem more "confident" than the previous drops at the same age. Perhaps due to the presence of numerous other small fish and complete lack of interest from the adults.

Drop 2 : (35 days) : Head count is still 5. Sizes vary. All have various hues of yellow. Some have a more streamline, elongated body and some have bulkier bellies, but it could be from feeding.

Drop 1: (1 month and 26 days): "Plain" female is missing. No probable COD and no body found. Second specimen is about 2 cm in length. Behavior is normal. No significant change. Whole body yellow greenish color with a lighter belly. Could have "Sunburst" spot pattern on caudal fin: black spots on brighter yellow. (Reds can take longer to come out.).
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January 7, 2012 - 11:00am: Drop 3!: Day 1. (28 days after previous drop)
(Discovered (so far) 9 tiny fry swimming at the top of the 30 gal tank. Some have a small round yoke sack. The fry avoided predation by hiding amongst the thick cover of floating duckweed. Recovered them and transferred them to the 10 gallon tank with the other guppies from fry 1 and 2 as well as the adult males. There appears to be no transfer shock. Yellow generating female appears thinner and "squared".
Drop 2 : (28 days) Growing steadily. Colors developing. Yellows are brighter and some specimen show distinctive half-black "tuxedo" patterns. Average size 1.5cm or more.
**Note: a couple of days ago, one fry went missing and was found alive in the filter. He was rescued and put back into the tank. It is important to keep the filter safety net as long as the fry are under 2 cm long.


Drop 1: (50 days: 1 month and 19 days): Both fry healthy. No considerable change. Size approx. 2 cm. The "Plain" specimen has a large, round fan. I cannot sex them for sure as of yet due to lack of experience.

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December 31, 2011 - 02:00pm: Drop 1: 43 days
after discovery: Still not at adult size. Both specimen might be female? Still no sign of elongated fins or gonopodium. I am unsure at which stage of development those traits usually appear. Fish are healthy. No significant change.
Drop 2 : 22 days: All fry healthy and growing steadily. 2 specimen display very interesting yellow color and patterns. Some appear to be growing a bit slower, mainly the ones with a half black pattern. Males might grow at a slower rate? Or they might not grow as large. No visible sexual dimorphism as of yet.
Also noting that the previous drops were 22 days apart last time.
Yellow generating female appears enlarged again. She will be housed separately in a 2.5 gallon tank in order to keep this drop. She should no longer be pregnant after this since she will no longer be in contact with males. She will continue to be housed in the community tank away from male guppies for another 20 days to make sure.


December 23, 2011 - 04:00pm: Drop 1:
35 days after discovery:Specimen are now about half the size of the adults, but with no distinctive sexual dimorphism as of yet. "Plain" specimen displays very faint yellow hue, but no color pattern. "Yellow and black" specimen started displaying distinct black spot pattern on caudal fin. Caudal fin also displays brighter yellow color. Body is yellow. Both are active and behaving normally. Drop 2 : 14 days. (2 smallest fry without any specific color or pattern were transferred to the 30 gallon tank after about 5 days.)
5 remaining specimen vary in size and color pattern. They are on average 1 cm long.
Most fry display a dark area on the base of the caudal fin and black spots on the dorsal fin, and various degrees of yellow color. One specimen seems to be displaying darker "half black" pattern and some shine on the tip of the pectoral fins.
One specimen displays an interesting brighter yellow pattern on the caudal fin and a stronger yellow hue on the body. All fry behaving normally.
I have tried to get pictures, but this prove more difficult than anticipated.

Fig. 3: Picture quality is terrible, but dark half of the body can be seen. 14 day-old fry from drop 2.

Fig. 4: Yellow specimen from drop 1 with spots on caudal fin.

Fig. 5: Same individual from drop 1, 35 days old, seen with Pencilfish.


Fig. 6: Plain specimen from drop 1, 35 days old. No color or pattern seen.


December 17, 2011 - 05:00pm: Drop 1: They might both be female, I'm still unsure, mainly due to my lack of experience with breeding Fancy Guppies. They are about 2 centimeters by now and pretty much behaving like the adults, minus the sexual behavior. One is pretty much colorless and resembles a wild type, and the second one, the one which started with a black spot is now yellowish with some black areas around the fins and caudal fin.
Drop 2 : The yellow female was being harassed way too much by the 2 adult males. Also, the male with the most aggressive breeding behavior is not the one with the best color pattern. I have transferred the female to the 30 gallon community tank for the moment. She is being ignored by the local residents. I'm hoping this will also take care of eliminating her next drop and serve to control my guppy population until I can set up a segregation tank for the females and regain control of the breading.



December 12, 2011 - 07:00pm: Drop 1:
2 mid sized fish behaving pretty much as the adults. No further significant change as of yet. At my experience level, I cannot sex them definitely as of yet.
Drop 2 :Final head count is 5.(Considering the speed with which the fish reproduce with only one female present and for the unique purpose of finding out whether I would be able to deal with population control in the future, were I to acquire more female Guppy specimens, I transferred one of the fry into the 30 gallon tank where a fully grown Apistogramma Cacatuoides male is housed. There will be no overpopulation issues foreseeable in the future.)
Unless I'm very much mistaking, it seems at least one of the fry shows a "half black/tuxedo" coloration or pattern, but it is still very early to really tell. At least one specimen might show a faint yellow coloration on the body, which is to be expected considering the generating female.

December 10, 2011 - 03:30pm:
Drop 2 : All fry still accounted for, total confirmed head count as of now: 5. Newly dropped fry do not seem to be in danger of being eaten by any of the adult fish. They are pretty much ignored by all inhabitants. Feeding frozen brine shrimp eggs every few hours. I think the plan for now is to let them grow large enough to sex and see color patterns, then exchange at the LFS. Possibility of upgrading the tank to a 20 gal and keeping this one for the females.. TBD.

December 10, 2011 - 09:30am: Drop 2 : Second drop! : Day 1.:
The female lost her belly and the gravid spot is less large and lighter. So far, 2 fry were discovered swimming at the top of the tank, amidst the Duckweed roots or in the hair algae at the bottom. Size is less than a centimeter. I think I saw one get eaten by one of the adults as well. The lights are still off at this time, so no other fry have been seen as of yet.
Drop1: Day: 22 after discovery:
The one I thought could be male actually is starting to develop a dark spot where the gravid spot should be... Both are starting to show faint yellow shade on the body.

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December 04, 2011 - 12:00pm:
Drop 1: Day 16 after discovery: No major change in young fish besides their size. They are a little over a centimeter long now. No apparent color pattern on the one I believe to be female. Same black pattern on the one I believe to be male and maybe some traces of faint yellow on the tail. (The mother is bright yellow). Young fish are active and continue to feed well on a variety of food items.
Water parameters are stable and as above. Performing 10% water change and gravel vac weekly.

November 29, 2011 - 08:00pm:
Drop 1: Day 11 since discovery: Note that this might not be the age of the fry as I don't know exactly when they were dropped. No major change since last entry. They have more than tripled in size since first discovered. The one I believe to be female does not display any specific coloration as of yet. No coloration change in the one I believe to be male. Same black spots and shadows as previously noted. The small fish are essentially ignored by the adult population by now, at least as a food source.
  • Fry Feeding tips: Although the youngs are pretty quick to go after anything that is small enough to fit in their mouths, and that sinks. I find it useful to feed the adults food items that "crumble" or make enough small particles when eaten so that the fry have a chance to go after the particles while the adult fish are kept busy with the larger pellets of food. This was particularly successful when using "mini floating Cichlid pellets". They create a cloud of tiny, highly nutritious, particles which the small fish respond to very well. I have also used pieces of sinking algae wafers, which fancy guppies respond to extremely well.
  • Everywhere on the web, they advise to provide several small feedings a day, if you're not there during the day - and you don't feel like using a timed feeder - I found it useful to break down the evening feeding into 2 sessions instead. This is especially useful when the fry are very young and cannot compete as efficiently with the adults.


November 26, 2011 - 04:00pm: -
Drop 1: One week passed: Fry doing well. They pretty much doubled in size since I first saw them a week ago. One of them definitely has some black coloration at the base of the caudal fin and now what appears to be some more black, if very faint, on the body almost resembling the "tuxedo" pattern of the adult males. The second fry is a little bit larger than the first one and has no such coloration. This leads me to believe that we have one male and one female.


November 23, 2011 - 11:00pm:
Drop 1: One of the fry appears to have some black coloration on the base of the caudal fin. I still don't really know what this will mean for his adult coloration, but now I can differentiate between the two. Feeding and swimming behavior unchanged.

November 22, 2011 - 09:00pm:
Drop 1: Both fry still accounted for and they seem to be doing quite well. I think they are getting a bit longer than they were unless I'm mistaking. They appear to have become braver as well and are often seen swimming in the water column. They are pretty much ignored by the adult population by now although their size would still allow them to be lunch. The only peril left for them would be starvation and, I make sure to provide them with multiple small feedings per day of tiny flake "powder". The multiple feedings seem to be allowing them a chance to catch at least an adequate quantity of food particles in suspension, and gives them a fighting chance competing with the adults. They are still way too young for any attempt at clear sexual differentiation, at least at my skill level.


November 20, 2011 - 01:00pm: Drop 1:
Surprisingly, no fry was found in the filter cartridges. Performed water change and improvised a device to protect the fry from being sucked into the filter. One less peril for them to face.
I don't have a sponge filter, but I used the fabric from an old carbon filter cartridge to make a net around the filter. This device will most probably get clogged up and/or gonked up fairly, quickly, but it should act as a protective barrier for the young fry.
Fig. 2: Improvised filter safety net.



November 20, 2011 - 11:30am:
Drop 1: Both fry still accounted for. I'm keeping the adult fish well fed on frozen brine shrimps. On to 10% water change as part of the regular maintenance. I'm afraid to look into the filter.....

Fig. 1: Very first fry found.


November 19, 2011: Drop 1 : Day 1. Noticed 2 tiny fry for the first time. They are no more than a quarter of an inch so far. I have no idea when they were born. They eat small particules of flakes and small particles of frozen brine shrimps - mainly the eggs that are released from the shrimps when the adults feed on them. The fry seem capable of evading capture by diving out of the way at surprising speeds. They also swim at the surface amongst the tangles of the duckweed roots or in the thicket of hair algae at the bottom.

Saturday, January 1, 2011

Angelfish - Ongoing Treatment of Body Sores - FAILED

January 01, 2011: Angelfish Fungi Infection Treatment - "Pimafix." - FAILED



UPDATE:
(Although no one is actually looking out for those updates, but I cannot leave this unfinished.)

January 2011:
Both Angelfish succumbed to unknown internal fungi infection. Expert has confirmed there is generally very little on can do when fish develops this kind of fungi infection. Fungi appeared to have been internal in nature and once external symptoms appear, very little can be done for the animal. Prevention is key.

Simple steps to prevent fungi infections in aquarium fish:
  • Maintain optimal water parameters aka adequate and stable temperature, insure stable and proper water chemistry via frequent water changes. Healthy fish will be less susceptible to infections.

  • Avoid sharp edged decorations or habitat elements which could cause body injuries to fish, especially in actively breeding fish.

  • Observe fish population in community aquarium or aquarium with aggressive fish to insure no fish receives extensive injuries, as injuries could become a breeding ground or point of entry for fungi or bacterial infections.

Remaining inhabitant showed signs of the disease as well, swollen stomach, reduced feeding and general lack of energy, vertical swimming, difficulty swimming etc and was euthanized.

I have converted the apparently severely infected tank into a Mint "nana" growing terrarium, which is pretty successful as of now.


No further entries.



January 09, 2011 : Brought the sick fish to "The Expert" at an undisclosed location for attempts at further treatment.
The treatment was not working and the disease was getting worst. The fish started getting pop-eye and more fungi was growing out of the original wound and from his mouth. He couldn't seem to close his mouth and had difficulty breathing. He was transported to an undisclosed location for attempts at further treatment by "The Expert." We could not diagnose exactly what he had. Awaiting news. The fish might be dead.


Day 3:
January 03, 2011:
The fish does not look any better. The "cottony growth"in the wound seems to be getting worst rather then better and the fish is not as active as he should be. Dosed "Pimafix" last night. The only good news is that he pooped and the feces seemed normal.

Day 1:
January 01, 2011:
Observations: The body sore does not seem to be getting better after 9 days of "Melafix" and salt treatment. The main body sore seems to have gotten wider and is now whitish and appears to have been infected by fungus. The fish also displays a swollen stomach, which could be attributed to over feeding. I allowed the fish to fast for one day. Other inhabitants display normal behavior, but affected fish seems relatively less shiny and colorful then usual. This could also be attributed to the end of a mating period as the other fish is also relatively fainter then during the courting period.

Ongoing treatment: Performed another 25% water change. Added 1tbsp of aquarium salt and the fist dose of "Pimafix", an anti-fungal agent.

Sunday, December 26, 2010

Angelfish: First Spawning

(This is so I don't lose this info for future reference.)

Day 1: December 25, 2010: Between 6:00pm and 7:00pm.

Conditions before spawning:

Due to a body injury on the male fish, I was administering an antibiotic / aquarium salt treatment. (See other post.)

The temperature was raised to 27 Celsius for the past 3 days.

Added today 1 tbsp of aquarium salt after having added approx. 4 L of fresh water (to top it.)

Added 12 ml of Melafix by API. (this is the 4th day of dosing and 2 tbs of aquarium salt was added on day 1 of treatment.)

Parameters:

Temp.: Stable for 4 days at 26-27 Celsius.

pH: Stable at approx. 8.0

Ammonia: Not tested. Usually 0.

Nitrite:L Not tested, usually 0.

Nitrates: Not tested, usually approx. 5.0 ppm.

Note, I took out the carbon for antibiotic treatment.

Observed behavior prior to spawning:

Pair locked mouths and sparred occasionally. Female sustained light injuries to pectoral fins. (She is a veil variety Angelfish.)

A few hours prior to spawning, the pair thoroughly cleaned one leaf of Java fern which was positioned on an angle. The female pushed on it downwards as hard as she could, as though to test its rigidity and resistance. Both male and female took part in the cleaning process. A newer, cleaner and healthy Java fern leaf was selected as a spawning site but unfortunately, very close to the filter intake.

Both fish had breeding tubes out for a few days. This morning, the female's breeding tube was completely out and pinkish in color instead of whitish has previously observed. The male tube is very small (...) but a more extended then usual.

I did not witness the mating ritual but saw that the female had sustained minor injuries to the pectoral fins (mainly shredding) and both had sustained minor injuries to the mouth region. The male also showed minor shredding of the caudal fin. Approx. a 100 eggs had been laid on the selected and previously cleaned site. Both fish take turns to hover close to the eggs and fan them as expected.

Other inhabitants, two small glowlight tetras, are kept at bay without excessive aggression.

Fed the pair an extra meal of frozen brine shrimps to provide protein after spawning.

Fish show more sign of aggression,or alertness, then usual towards me as I approach the tank.

08:20pm: The male makes more passes on the eggs and touches them with his papilla. I do not know if the eggs are fertilized or not. Eggs look whitish but still semi-translucent.

Note: if eggs turn completely white within 24 hours, they were not fertilized and should be removed to avoid decay.

First spawning! =)
Angelfish tending to their very first spawning together. Female (right) is a veil variety. Male (left) is regular. It will most probably fail as the young parents learn to care for the eggs.

Day 2: December 26, 2010

09:00am: The majority of the eggs are still there. Only a few have turned white. They are smaller and have turned a very bright, opaque white. The other eggs might be fertilized. Will know in 12 more hours. Parents are still locking mouths and battling. Minor mouth injuries have been sustained.

10:30am: The female mostly, comes to fan the eggs periodically. She seems to be picking out ONLY the white, unfertilized ones, while the viable ones remain undisturbed. While the parent fans the nest, the white ones, which do not stick properly to the leaf surface, are plopped off and consumed.


Day 3: December 27, 2010.

The male attacked the female last night and wounded her chin slightly. She remained hidden behind some plants for a good while. This morning, all eggs had been consumed and the spawning site is empty. This was to be expected.

Angelfish "Melafix" Treatment in Progress.


Day 9: Added another dose of "Melafix" and a half table spoon of aquarium salt. Behavior seems normal. Note that the fish I believe to be the male seems very "fat." I will reduce feeding to insure that they do not become constipated. Water is not pristine due to the carbon cartridge being removed for a week.

Day 8: Performed a 25% water change as instructed on the "Melafix" package. The side wound seems much better and is no longer red. However, it still seems white and the injury above the eye is still very white and unchanged. I added another dose of "Melafix."

Day 7:AM: This is normally the last day of treatment and the last dose to be administered tonight. I am happy to report a layer of scales growing back on the side wound. However, the white injury above the eye is still unchanged and the tail spot remains. I might prolong the treatment for an additional 3 days. Note, I will need to perform a 25% water change tomorrow before adding any more antibiotics. (Or switch the treatment to "Pimafix", an anti-fungal agent.)


Day 6: AM: Most of the eggs had turned white and all eggs were consumed. Injuries were sustained by the female due to attack. Original wounds on the male seem less red. Spot on the tail is no longer red but still apparent and white.


Day 5: Continued dosing Melafix everyday. Some of the eggs have turned white and are unfertilized. (See other post.) I do not know whether the treatment has affected the pair's fertility.


Day 4: Wound seems less red. Note: in the meantime, the Angelfish have spawned and now both fish show minor injuries to fins and mouths due to mating behavior and aggression. (See other post on spawning.)

Tested:

pH: Approx 8.0 instead of 7.8.

NH4+: Traces instead of 0.

I cannot perform a water change as I am in the middle of a treatment.


Day 3: The glowlights are still in the Angel tank as their behavior went back to normal after a while and they returned to their regular spot. Again, I'll know tomorrow, and I might transfer them at that time.



December 22, 2010

Tank 3: Angelfish Treatment in progress.

This is the first time I have ever attempted to treat a potential infection on a wounded fish. I spoke to the expert I bought the fish from. I did not quarantine as the main tank is relatively small and there are few inhabitants. I did not want to cause more stress or potential injury to the wounded fish.

Symptoms: Red open wound which started as a white patch or a scrape. Also a whitish wound above one of the eyes. Small white dot (not Ich)with a little red dot, on the caudal fin. Behavior is unchanged. Energy level and appetite are unchanged and other inhabitants are unaffected. Which made me think it was an infection post physical injury on that fish.

Treatment: Gradually raised the temperature from 25 to 27 Celsius. Added aquarium salts (first day: changed 10% of the water and added 2 tbsp of salt and third day, one more) to help in healing open sore. Dosed "Melafix", a broad spectrum antibiotic to slow down and eliminate surinfection, according to package instructions. "Melafix" will be dosed everyday for 7 days.


Observations:

Day 1: Now the interesting part is, when I added the meds, the behavior of all the small inhabitants (Pair of Glowlight tetras and 3 pencilfish) changed completely. They all started acting as if I just put them into a brand new environment and they were visiting the surroundings as if in a new tank all of a sudden. However, the larger, perhaps more advanced, Angelfish did not react to the "new environment" whatsoever. I thought this was interesting.

However, as to avoid further stress for the small and more sensitive fish, I transferred the 3 pencilfish, which seemed to be a lot more affected by the treatment, into my 10 gallon tank with all the plants and all the algae. I will know tomorrow if it was too late and the damage was done. (One of the pencilfish is dead.) I took a chance..


22 Dec 2010 - Injury

22 Dec 2010 - Injury. It looks pretty bad here but it's not that bad.. I hope.

22 Dec 2010 - Injury.

22 Dec 2010 - Small injury above the eye.


Current Tanks - Last Update Sept 2011

Why this Blog? Because I'm a complete fish geek, albeit still an intermediate freshwater fishkeeper (I like to say I'm an advance beginner, but there's no such thing apparently.) And because I always seem to lose all those loose leaf sheets with my notes, so now this won't happen.
And because maybe my experience, as narrow as it may be, can help some fellow fishkeepers or potential new fishkeepers to be interested in this amazing hobby.

I have kept fish ongoing for the past 20 years, with lots and lots of trial and error along the way.


So here is what I have to work with at the moment:

Tank 1-B: Fancy Guppy (mutts) Tank ( I call it "B" because it was upgraded from a 5 gal that I had before.)
10 gallon freshwater
Filter: Cartridge
Substrate: Fluorite
Deco: Natural driftwood and a "quartz looking" stone.
Flora: Only live plants (and lots of algae ). Mainly Bacopa sp. , Amazon swords, some Java moss, Some Rotalla sp. Floating plants : Greater duckweed mix and Salvinia sp. (Salvinia, as a pond plant, does not do well in an aquarium setting since it does not like being upside down, or completed submerged. Duly noted.)
Fauna: 1 female Gold Fancy Guppy mutt, one male fantail "Leopard" Fancy Guppy mutt and one male "Sunburst" Fancy Guppy mutt. 2 fry!
Some Ramshorn snails, and some random survivors: one male Golden pencilfish, male Threadfin Rainbowfish.

Parameters:
Temp.: Stable at 27-29 Celsius
pH: Stable at approx. 7.8 (up to 8.0 thanks for city water)
Ammonia: always 0
Nitrites: 0
Nitrates: 0


Tank 2: Community tank
29 gallon freshwater
Filter: Cartridge
Substrate: Pea gravel and some fluorite
Deco: Natural driftwood and some fake driftwood and rock
Flora: Only live plants: Mainly Bacopa sp. Java ferns, Crypt colony, Vallisneria sp. (Americana?), Amazon Sword, Floating plants: Greater duckweed mix, Salvinia sp.
Fauna: Apistogramma cacatuoides (male), 7 Rummynose tetras, 4 golden pencilfish, Clown pleco.

Parameters:
Temp.: Stable at 28 Celsius
pH: Stable at approx. 7.8 (up to 8.0)
Ammonia: always 0
Nitrites: 0
Nitrates: 5-10, closer to 5.


Tank 3: Was converted to a Mint "nana" growing terrarium.

Parameters:
Temp.: Room temp.